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To Mrs Baguley, who won the women's skeleton sled race down the Cresta Run in 1925

She might have won more, but some men discovered that doing the Cresta Run – 1.2km in 1 minute – caused breast cancer, and so women had to be stopped for their own welfare.
 
Who were you Mrs Baguley? The internet says your initials were J. M. So perhaps you were a Jane, or a Janet? To be hanging round an early Swiss ski resort, you would probably have been wealthy, if not laden down with riches. 

If Baguley is even your real name, and you weren't using a pseudonym for some propriety-related reason. 

You seem like the kind of person that should have had a poem written about you by – I don't know – Carol Ann Duffy, UA Fanthorpe, or something spiky and odd by Stevie Smith. I can imagine one of Smith's drawings illustrating your 1925 victory. 

Date: 2024-03-10 10:22 pm (UTC)
theseatheseatheopensea: Annabelle Hurst from Department S holding a book. (Annabelle.)
From: [personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea
This is absolutely delightful, thank you for sharing! I loved reading about Mrs Baguley, and a Stevie Smith poem (plus drawing) would definitely be perfect for her!

Date: 2024-03-11 07:55 pm (UTC)
theseatheseatheopensea: A drawing of a fox and a magpie hugging. (Fox and magpie.)
From: [personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea
Yes to all of this! All these small bits of history should be preserved--I definitely hope that the Toboganning Club archive hasn't been used to light fires, that's sadly more usual than one might think! :(

Date: 2024-03-12 04:52 pm (UTC)
theseatheseatheopensea: Annabelle Hurst from Department S holding a book. (Annabelle.)
From: [personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea
Oh no, this is heartbreaking, but I'm not surprised--archives (especially personal and women's) are still seen as unimportant and disposable! This story reminded me of something that happened some years ago at my job. We keep records for different state departments, which we sometimes return to them, because of our limited space. So we were returning Air Force records, and told them that there were regulations from our National Archives that a specific part of them had to be kept permanently, because they'd been produced during the dictatorship years. The person in charge actually asked me why and I explained, but still, I'm almost positive that these records became barbecue kindling! :(

Date: 2024-03-20 01:35 pm (UTC)
igenlode: The pirate sloop 'Horizon' from "Treasures of the Indies" (Default)
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I'm afraid Mrs J.M.Baguley was more probably the wife of Mr J.M.Baguley, and not a Janet or a Joan... ;-)

Date: 2024-03-20 05:22 pm (UTC)
igenlode: The pirate sloop 'Horizon' from "Treasures of the Indies" (Default)
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My mother certainly did -- and my father expected to have "Esq." suffixed to his name on official communications instead of "Mr" prefixed to it ;-)

(So it would be "Mrs J.M.Baguley" but "J.M.Baguley Esq[uire]" on the envelopes... or 'omvelopes', which was the genteel pronunciation!)

Date: 2024-03-24 01:59 pm (UTC)
igenlode: The pirate sloop 'Horizon' from "Treasures of the Indies" (Default)
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Now I don't think I've ever seen an 'Esq.' suffix in the wild. Though I guess places like the Garrick may still make fairly unironic use of them?

I don't think I've seen one for forty years or so...
Wikipedia claims that it is still used on letters sent out from Buckingham Palace (although this appears to be based on a source from fifteen years ago -- I don't know anyone who has ever received a letter from the Palace whom I could ask!), and that Americans use it as a title for lawyers, presumably like the French use of the obsolete Maître ('Master') for the same purpose.

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